tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post6998160554272054625..comments2023-07-01T05:04:43.376-07:00Comments on Really Bad Eggs: Tilting the SandboxBlack Vulmeahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-26556464550507206042012-10-22T19:19:14.663-07:002012-10-22T19:19:14.663-07:00If you prefer, the audiobook is also really good.If you prefer, the audiobook is also really good.Theodric the Obscurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18201793290118146978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-74831578429999065022012-10-22T10:26:26.401-07:002012-10-22T10:26:26.401-07:00I have it, and I read about a third of it - I shou...I have it, and I read about a third of it - I should go back and finish it.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-2552068255961962852012-10-21T14:45:05.586-07:002012-10-21T14:45:05.586-07:00Have you read The Religion by Tim Willocks? I high...Have you read The Religion by Tim Willocks? I highly recommend it as additional inspiration for your sandbox setting.Theodric the Obscurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18201793290118146978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-17695940138370960562012-10-21T14:43:48.887-07:002012-10-21T14:43:48.887-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dr. Obscurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14915912787477812255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-14663404003440653862012-10-18T12:08:30.476-07:002012-10-18T12:08:30.476-07:00Yeah, there are a lot of approaches to games that ...Yeah, there are a lot of approaches to games that don't personally appeal to me, but that doesn't make them bad or wrong, any more than what I like should be taken as universal.<br /><br />I think it's great to have these discussions, at least when they become a means of exchanging ideas and not planting a flag on a hill and defending it against all comers.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-19255950136364738792012-10-18T12:04:57.430-07:002012-10-18T12:04:57.430-07:00Yeah, that's exactly how I run espionage games...Yeah, that's exactly how I run espionage games - the mission is never the whole story of what's going on, and the game is really about how the agents discover this and deal with it.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-52140461267184485252012-10-18T08:57:18.258-07:002012-10-18T08:57:18.258-07:00Absolutely agree, I'm just comparing GM'in...Absolutely agree, I'm just comparing GM'ing styles mostly. Some would argue the approach should ALWAYS be one way, while others the opposite. I feel better about getting my party motivated, otherwise it turns into chaos (at our table anyway). So I'm more in favor for the story to drive it, but that's because of my group's makeup, not because I'm opposed to the sandbox.Junior Prendergasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111759426493940315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-44397101053166929602012-10-18T01:14:44.998-07:002012-10-18T01:14:44.998-07:00I think of that as a "mission-based sandbox&q...I think of that as a "mission-based sandbox", and would point out some specific examples like Sprechenhaltestelle from the <i>Top Secret</i> boxed set.faoladhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03691952430041394614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-29316033660636688002012-10-18T01:02:57.914-07:002012-10-18T01:02:57.914-07:00I have always felt that there is a 3rd style- an o...I have always felt that there is a 3rd style- an outline where the GM creates a single, specific set of goals or in your case, a bit more shiny area, but allows the characters to choose how to get the goals or shiny accomplished- with no other direction from the GM.killervphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489943926667369292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-75193793357602571112012-10-17T13:44:33.793-07:002012-10-17T13:44:33.793-07:00Thanks, faoladh. It doesn't seem to get talked...Thanks, faoladh. It doesn't seem to get talked about very much in discussions of sandboxes.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-18822298783274532782012-10-16T23:10:31.669-07:002012-10-16T23:10:31.669-07:00That seems like a useful addition to the body of t...That seems like a useful addition to the body of thinking about adventure gaming styles of play.faoladhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03691952430041394614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-24645190587534174102012-10-16T13:21:35.018-07:002012-10-16T13:21:35.018-07:00I think they proceed from very different expectati...I think they proceed from very different expectations about the experience.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-4595766457379345072012-10-16T13:13:53.544-07:002012-10-16T13:13:53.544-07:00For my part, I run what's fun for me, with wha...For my part, I run what's fun for me, with whatever workload that entails. If I didn't enjoy the work, I wouldn't do it in the first place.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-24362834751706813222012-10-16T13:11:38.521-07:002012-10-16T13:11:38.521-07:00Thanks, RC.Thanks, RC.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-14662533927378151222012-10-16T13:01:22.276-07:002012-10-16T13:01:22.276-07:00This suggests to me that my intuition that "s...This suggests to me that my intuition that "story gamers" and "sandbox gamers" will never play well together at the same table may be correct. <br /><br />They want essentially irreconcilable experiences out of their game time.<br /><br />Thanks, Mike.<br /><br />*edited for spelling and coherence. Hit "Publish" too quickly.Flambeauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133131881423202010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-8472440757019500642012-10-16T12:53:38.803-07:002012-10-16T12:53:38.803-07:00This article continues my group's argument tha...This article continues my group's argument that an adventure or campaign is either story driven by the GM, or player driven, like a sandbox. Some would argue one is better than the other, while some would argue one is a giant pain in the rear and the other is less work...Junior Prendergasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111759426493940315noreply@blogger.com