tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post2761299653462219139..comments2023-07-01T05:04:43.376-07:00Comments on Really Bad Eggs: Playstyles & PigeonholesBlack Vulmeahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-42156963478593976142013-03-01T08:22:24.895-08:002013-03-01T08:22:24.895-08:00Keep in mind: that would be the description of Tac...Keep in mind: that would be the description of Tactician, if somehow you got a Tactician 100%, Tactician, (Method Actor+Butt-Kicker+Storyteller+Power Gamer+Specialist+Casual Gamer)=0% player. And FWIW, I expected you to be a tactician. Tactician is more about approaching any situation as a problem to be solved using the principles of tactics - resource management, looking for weak spots to maximise your efforts, creating temporary advantages, and so on, and so forth. These all apply to relationships as well as dice games as well as battles, as you probably noticed.<br /><br />The same applies to the other archetypes.<br />Let me give you an example: It says I'm a Tactician, too. It's true (for that matter, I've got the same traits as you, except Power Gamer isn't really high).<br />It also says I'm a Method actor, being my second highest, and therefore don't care whether the system supports me. That's flat-out wrong as anyone knowing me can attest. But that's exactly what proves my point! All of the "archetypes" have characteristics, but they only apply in as much as they don't clash with another one.<br />Otherwise, it would be impossible to combine them, as they're often in direct opposition.AsenRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17548696815567190696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-5008983892180772272013-01-04T07:33:51.382-08:002013-01-04T07:33:51.382-08:00Yeah, as a diversion they can be fun, but Mr Laws ...Yeah, as a diversion they can be fun, but Mr Laws and Mr Hicks suggest that this sort of pigeonholing be taken seriously, and I think that the 'gerrymandering' Matthew spoke about is a real consequence.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-60780776217365146572013-01-03T21:43:52.650-08:002013-01-03T21:43:52.650-08:00These tests amuse me in the same way as all those ...These tests amuse me in the same way as all those online tests to determine my political persuasion do - they hint at what I am, but with all the depth of a puddle.<br /><br />I agree fully with your concluding paragraph. <br /><br />FWIW, my top three results were: Tactician 100%, Method Actor 58%, Specialist 58%.Jacob Marleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14676710938064164554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-58207277210304574722013-01-03T17:16:44.866-08:002013-01-03T17:16:44.866-08:00I prefer to think broadly - how many of these can ...I prefer to think broadly - how many of these can I hit - rather than focusing like a laser on the top one or two.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-14656598139945593022013-01-03T17:15:51.779-08:002013-01-03T17:15:51.779-08:00"Gerrymander[ing] games" . . . what an a..."Gerrymander[ing] games" . . . what an apt description.<br /><br />A lot of the advice I hear is to use stuff like this to 'engage' the player, in the name of avoiding the infamous 'fifteen minutes of fun in four hours of playing' meme, but I think this can lead to ridiculously contrived situations.Black Vulmeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04270071699114783644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-48182023907694351702013-01-03T11:30:06.806-08:002013-01-03T11:30:06.806-08:00One of the guys in one of my regular groups is rea...One of the guys in one of my regular groups is really hung up both on these "style" breakouts and with the idea of a "grand unifying game design" that gets all players of all types happily playing the same rules at the same table at the same time. <br /><br />I think he'd be more successful tilting at windmills. But what do I know. *shrug*Flambeauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133131881423202010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930065815010914887.post-51625560341445123822013-01-03T06:42:43.986-08:002013-01-03T06:42:43.986-08:00Yeah, I think this kind of quiz can be an interest...Yeah, I think this kind of quiz can be an interesting prompt for discussion, but as an objective measure of anything it is really less than useless. A great game is often like a fine Bordeaux, with all of these flavors, and more.<br /><br />Someone pointed out, I think it was Zak S, that back when the World's Most Popular Role-playing Game was the only game in town, you had a mix of all of these player archetypes together at the same table (and within the same person, perhaps at different times). Later, we saw attempts to gerrymander games, carving out districts where storytellers never had to interact with powergamers, method actors never had to cooperate with tacticians.<br /><br />Interesting that in your own quiz, your top two "types" are theoretically contradictory.<br /><br /><i>"Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."</i>Matthew Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17343263539473683579noreply@blogger.com